<codepal> looks like die.net don’t want to serve images to my server 
<codepal> I guess I’ll have to grab them from somewhere else… <dwfreed> codepal: probably doesn’t like you stealing them (ie, not setting the referrer header properly) <somiaj> MaxHeadRoom: /msg ssbp (if you know a bit about compling software (or want to learn) you can compile your own backports in many cases <Guest49178> hi <MaxHeadRoom> somiaj: sounds over my head… is there a service like suse build service that is for debian? <Guest49178> please which file is hosting environment var’s under debian? <zimba12> hi <ToxicTuxer> Guest49178, /etc/environment <zimba12> I messed up the kde installation in debian squeeze <zimba12> while installing kde from source (i wanted to install the new one in my home) <somiaj> MaxHeadRoom: for many packages you can just follow the instructions, apt-get and dpkg-buildpackage work with source packages and do most the work <zimba12> how do I go back to the installation that existed before? <Roge152> Is there a repo for non-free packages ? <somiaj> MaxHeadRoom: again ‘/msg dpkg ssbp’ for basic instructions on how to make your own backports <zimba12> is there some dummy package to reinstall all basic kde packages? <somiaj> MaxHeadRoom: you do not want to install testing binary packages on squeeze, (: <somiaj> zimba12: they are called meta packages, and I belive it is ust ‘kde’ use aptitude search <somiaj> Roge152: yes there is <somiaj> !non-free <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the 
<zimba12> it’s a transitional package <zimba12> the right one is kde-standard I guess <somiaj> zimba12: actually guess not, yea that is just a virtual package name, there is a meta package somewhere <Guest49178> tHe cl env displays vars where are they hosted? <somiaj> zimba12: kde-full <Roge152> ty somiaj <somiaj> Roge152: yw <Roge152> seems like a solid distro thus far <somiaj> Roge152: if you are using stable and need/want something of a newer version make sure to look into backports <Roge152> ok, will do <Guest49178> i would like to add this var to my system JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun please how to? <somiaj> Guest49178: that is an envvar, depending on which shells need it, adding it to your $HOME/.bashrc (if you use bash) for your user would work <Vk7foss> hi all. I’m trying to write a script to watchdog dpkg-buildpackage and perform certain actions depending on its failure output. Since tee is doing something weird to the output, i’m wondering if someone can s<zimba12> somiaj: kde-full just installed a bunch of things that I don’t need <zimba12> like wallpapers <zimba12> but nothing essential like kdelibs <Guest49178> it is bash <somiaj> zimba12: well that is the ‘full’ kde desktop meta-package. If you want only pieces of it you have to install them individually <Guest49178> i used emacs in tother to add the var <somiaj> zimba12: hmm, do you mean the kde development libs, it does say that package doens’t install the development enviorment, ‘apt-cache show kde’ — it even tells you what it will install <Guest49178> but it’s not recognised by the system <somiaj> zimba12: maybe you only want kde-standard <zimba12> I’ll try kde-standard <somiaj> zimba12: or kde-minimal <zimba12> thanks <clone_of_saturn> Vk7foss: you probably need to redirect stderr to stdout <somiaj> hmm guess kde-minimal doens’t exist anymore, was only mentioned in there <zimba12> I installed kde-full <zimba12> let’s see what happens <clone_of_saturn> Guest49178: try /etc/environment <Guest49178> it’s displays a blanl page <Guest49178> it’s displays a blank page <clone_of_saturn> echo JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun >> /etc/environment <Vk7foss> tried that, get the same weird output. Might be due to the kernel using a custom patch tool, but i doubt it <skilz> How can I mount an ISO file? <clone_of_saturn> skilz: mount -o loop something.iso /mountpoint <skilz> clone_of_saturn, Thanks <Vk7foss> Bbl. I’m already in channel elsewase, so if anyone replies i’ll see it <skilz> mount: you must specify the filesystem type <zimba12> somiaj: still broken, even after reinstalling kde-full <zimba12> kde doesn’t start <somiaj> zimba12: what is broken? What did you do when you installed kde from source <somiaj> skilz: mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/point -o loop <somiaj> skilz: you have to use a loopback mount option <zimba12> somiaj: the installation from source failed and it has overwritten the existing kde from the debian installation <somiaj> skilz: and I’m slow <somiaj> zimba12: most likely since debian thinks the package was alreayd installed it didn’t –reinstall it <somiaj> I’m not sure if adding –reinstall will reinstall all depends <zimba12> somiaj: I did use –reinstall <somiaj> zimba12: next time install your source in /usr/local (most source installs there by default) <zimba12> somiaj: I know <somiaj> zimba12: actually wait, did you just do a ‘make install’ and install in /usr/local? <zimba12> no, I used kdesrc-build <zimba12> I don’t know where it installed it <zimba12> I assumed it was going to be in the home, but I was wrong <zimba12> do you know where the logs are? <somiaj> zimba12: most source installs in /usr/local — look in there. If it installed it there by default things in /usr/local are in the $PATH before usr, so it could be trying to run the binaries you installed <somiaj> zimba12: ls /usr/local/bin — also there is usually an install.log or something in the source dir, but again I’m not familair with kde <Guest49178> clone_of_saturn : done but env doesn’t display it <skilz> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, <zimba12> somiaj: no, it’s not in /usr/local/bin <somiaj> zimba12: you could try to –purge all the kde packages, and then reinstall them <skilz> Guys how can I save my alsamixer levels? I tried ‘sudo /sbin/alsactl store’ and got ‘Home directory /home/skilz not ours.’. Why is this happening to me? <somiaj> zimba12: though might want to try to figuore out where things were installed as ghost may hide on your machine <zimba12> mmm <zimba12> how do I purge all kde packages? <skilz> each time a new song starts the volume jumps to 100% and scares the hell out of me! <Kamping_Kaiser> clone_of_saturn: tw, thanks for your suggestion regarding my dpkg-buildpackage query <Kamping_Kaiser> not ona phone now, i an afford to use more words <zimba12> somiaj: I am reading the logs of the source installation <zimba12> and it seems it did install things in my home <zimba12> I wonder what fails then <somiaj> zimba12: do you have anything strange in your $PATH <somiaj> i.e. does your path point to the binaries installed in your home <somiaj> also its kde that fails not xorg? <somiaj> skilz: that sounds strange, what application is doing that? <zimba12> somiaj: nothing strange in $PATH <zimba12> yeah, it;s kde. I am running twm now <clone_of_saturn> Kamping_Kaiser: you’re welcome, but i don’t really know what else it could be <somiaj> zimba12: just install fvwm and be done with it…well best of luck. Have to track down what broke things, look in /var/log and various places to see why kde is failing <clone_of_saturn> skilz: that’s probably the fault of your player not alsa <skilz> How? <clone_of_saturn> skilz: alsactl only restores mixer levels on boot, not every time you play a song <skilz> Well why does my volume jump with vlc and audacious? <clone_of_saturn> that’s strange… i don’t know <clone_of_saturn> maybe a driver bug <zimba12> somiaj: I don’t see any kde log in /var/log <Roge152> Is gnome2 still going to be around and supported for a while ? <somiaj> zimba12: well was thinking the xorg log or the display manager log <Roge152> Or should I find something else ? <zimba12> somiaj: everything looks fine there <skilz> Roge152, use Fluxbox <somiaj> Roge152: debian stable only gets bug and security fixes (But not version changes) <skilz> Fluxbox+xcompmgr+cairo-dock <Roge152> ok <somiaj> Roge152: gnome2 will be the only gnome option in squeeze for its lifespan (which will be about a year after wheezy is release, and rough estimate around 2 more years give or take) <Roge152> Lots of time to find something else then. <Roge152> Will experiment with that skilz <skilz> Roge152, If you need help with it #fluxbox <Roge152> ty <mosno> somiaj: you think wheezy will only have a 6 month freeze? <somiaj> mosno: when its ready, with gnome3 and other things, it is hard to say. <somiaj> mosno: I don’t follow it that closly <mosno> somiaj: yeah, just commenting on your “rough estimate” <somiaj> mosno: hence the give or take <mosno> <Roge152> I guess I could try getting used to gnome3 again <somiaj> Roge152: I’d say stick with squeeze and gnome2, and see how gnome3 matures by the time wheezy stabializes <somiaj> there is some time for that, (: <Roge152> that’s true <factor> Does debian have a gcc 4.2 version in repo <somiaj> factor: what version of debian are you in and any paticuar reason for that version? <factor> need it compile mips router code. and I use stable debian. <somiaj> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gcc-4.2 — leeny was the last debian version to offer gcc-4.2 <factor> i compiled it with 4.1 but the gui need 4.2 <factor> thanks <somiaj> it shoudl be installable just fine in squeez <somiaj> if you are using squeeze, you should upgrade to gcc-4.4 <somiaj> ,versions gcc-4.4 <judd> Package: gcc-4.4 on i386 — squeeze: 4.4.5-8; sid: 4.4.6-14; wheezy: 4.4.6-14 <factor> i have 4.4 <somiaj> ahh, thought you said 4.1, (: <factor> but had to regress to compile these as it wont work with 4.2 specific code <factor> I did <Roge152> I used 6.0.4 netinstall iso <factor> 4.1 did work withthe 4.1 config <factor> but need the 4.2 which you gave me <Roge152> I don’t know if thats sqeez wheez or orange stinky cheese <somiaj> anyways, you should be able to grab those packages from old stable if you like <somiaj> Roge152: 6.0.4 is debian stable or squeeze <Roge152> cool <somiaj> Roge152: I’d stick with squeeze, don’t try to install testing. <codepal> dwfreed, somiaj – I updated the curl part to send a user agent string and now it works, thanks! <Roge152> Yeah, I think you’re right. <Roge152> At any rate its a nice distro, im tempted to install it on bare metal <Roge152> It’s like, everything you want working works out of box, but it does not feel bloated <factor> <nsadmin> “installation of your graphic card” means powering the machine down and putting the card in the slot and screwing it down <nsadmin> do you actually mean running that installer? <somiaj> factor: I would download the debs manually from packages.debian.org <somiaj> factor: what netgear router source? What is it you are trying to do? <factor> somiaj, Making custom server setup on the router. I already compiled with it . <factor> or recompiled with it. <factor> still need to compile the gui. recompiled the MIPSEL compiler with the 4.2 <Delf> Is there a way to have timestamp in terminal? <lstarnes> Delf: edit your $PS1 <somiaj> factor: so you are compling firmware for a router? <somiaj> factor: or software for it? <somiaj> Delf: timestamp where? <Delf> somiaj: in the terminal, where I type “aptitude update” and so on <somiaj> Delf: then take lstarnes advice, what you are talking about is the prompt. <Delf> somiaj: The prompt, ok. Will do @ advicee <somiaj> Delf: PS1=’$(date -u +%R):${PWD}# ‘ (works in bash, modify to your liking) <oppiet30> I installed 6.0.4 and I wanted to install lm-sensors package. I am using the distro,ibiblio.org repository. The 3 packages fancontrol, lm-sensors and libsensors4 are not in that repo. <oppiet30> Is there a cmd line utility to change the repos? <Delf> Thanks lstarnes and somiaj. I did PS1=”${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}[@ - d] u@h:w> “ <file-exists-p> how does my router know the name of certain computers (my windows ones, not the linux ones)? Is this rendezvous or something? <oppiet30> That should be with samba. <file-exists-p> my question? <factor> somiaj firmware right now. Want to see if it copies over and works first. Then get to custom servers. <liak> Hi, I want to install debian from a USB, but should I format my usb with fat, ext1 or ext2? <file-exists-p> liak: fat <file-exists-p> well I guess there are plenty of variants though <liak> Thank you <Kamping_Kaiser> or just dd the relevant image onto it <somiaj> factor: if you need a different build enviroment, you could always make a lenny (oldstable) chroot to do your building in <factor> somiaj, i have the 4.2.1 so I am good , so far at least <somiaj> liak: when youplace teh image on the usb drive you destroy the partition table/data and create a fat16 partition in most cases <somiaj> factor: just a suggestion so you can don’t have to go mucking around wiht installing things from old stable in your main system <somiaj> liak: if on a unix system you can ust cat/dd the .iso image right onto the usb device. <factor> somiaj, i have 4.1 .2 .3 .4 gcc all together so I am fine on that. <factor> somiaj, i only have to change the sym link. <somiaj> factor: man update-alternatives <somiaj> factor: that is the debian system for just what you are doing, though messing with sym links is fine, debian packages are designed to work with the alternative system <factor> yup <oppiet30> Why would you want different gcc’s? <factor> specific options compile <oppiet30> ? <factor> just like different compilers i.e intel specific , cuda specific etc.. <factor> differnt versions have new options or obsolete options <file-exists-p> how does my dsl router know the hostnames of my windows machines and not debian machines? I should install zeroconf or rendezvous or something? <oppiet30> So, why would you want the obsolete? <factor> oppiet30, someone else’s code was compiled with it <oppiet30> file-exists-p, you can get the same function by installing winbind. <file-exists-p> winbind? <oppiet30> file-exists-p, you can get the same function by installing samba <file-exists-p> hm <file-exists-p> I do not want to install samba on all my machines <oppiet30> That is the only way you can do it. <seed_> . <file-exists-p> really? <file-exists-p> that seems a bit heavy no? <file-exists-p> let’s try on the one with samba <oppiet30> no <file-exists-p> I just have to install the winbind package? <file-exists-p> because even that one is not currently identified properly by the router <oppiet30> I think winbind is in samba. But I could be wrong <HazardX> last I knew all the stuff you needed for winbind to work is included with samba <file-exists-p> there is a specific package <HazardX> the only reason you’d currently NEED winbind is if you DIDN’T want to run samba. <HazardX> (at least, that was my impression a few years ago) <file-exists-p> okay, I am lost. let me check a bit, brb <LordBrain> Hey. I have a fresh install of Debian Squeeze. The graphics are kinda wavy and annoying. But whatever driver is autodetected by pmagic works great. I am booted from pmagic now, but i have the root partit<file-exists-p> indeed, winbind can be installed without samba. however, when installed, I do not see any additional daemon listening to any port <file-exists-p> it adds something in /etc/init.d though <file-exists-p> but starting it from there does not add a daemon neither <somiaj> LordBrain: are you talking about the xorg driver? <file-exists-p> or at least does not add a daemon listening to any port <file-exists-p> ah the daemon runs <LordBrain> somiaj, really all of them, all the graphics drivers must be poor, even the frame buffer.. but i mostly care about xorg <LordBrain> whatever the pmagic is auto-detecting is working much better than whatever squeeze is doing <somiaj> LordBrain: look at lots, and what modules are loaded. /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells you what xorg detected. Also what video card do you have? (lspci) <LordBrain> i have x running in pmagic now, i’d kinda like to do this without quitting x <somiaj> LordBrain: you can, open up a terminal start parsing logs <LordBrain> ok <somiaj> LordBrain: or figure out what hardware you have, and then check the logs for pmagic and see what drives it uses <LordBrain> thankyou <LordBrain> i am in pmagic, i’m going to check it’s logs <oppiet30> LordBrain, lspci will tell you what card you have. <LordBrain> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Caicos [AMD RADEON HD 6450] <LordBrain> That’s my lspci <oppiet30> You can go and download the driver from ATI if it is a 3D card. And compile it and instal it. <jelly-home> !fglrx <dpkg> fglrx is the ATI/AMD proprietary display driver for Radeon HD and FireGL graphics cards. As of fglrx-driver 1:9-4-1, no chips prior to the R600 series (i.e. models up to and including the Radeon X1950) are supp<LordBrain> if Xorg is loading fbdev, does that mean it is using the framebuffer driver? <jelly-home> LordBrain: not necessarily. Did you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log already? <LordBrain> oh i didnt pastebin it, i just looked at it myself <oppiet30> I thought framebuffer is for laptops. <LordBrain> hold up i’ll get a pastebin <jelly-home> LordBrain: also, what’s the pci-id of that card <LordBrain> jelly-home, that’s one of hte lines in lspci right? <LordBrain> columns rather <jelly-home> LordBrain: the [xxxx:xxxx] hexadecimal number in lspci -nn <LordBrain> [1002:6779] <jelly-home> ,pciid 1002:6779 <judd> [1002:6779] is ‘Caicos [Radeon HD 6450]‘ from ‘Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI’ with kernel module ‘snd-hda-intel’ in squeeze. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:6779 http:/<jelly-home> judd: you suck <jelly-home> well, the kernel bits of the free driver seem to support your card from kernel 2.6.38 onwards <oppiet30> judd, Radeon HD is a ATI device not an Intel device. <oppiet30> So snd-hda-intel isn’t going to work. <nutron> so… I want to run a sequence of commands with bash… dothis; dothat; (sleep 5; reboot)&; exit .. I’m logged in via ssh and the (sleep … reboot) command fails because of the semi colon, if I quote it, bashPages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
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