<nathan28> gtmanfred: you’ll go nuts otherwise <cythes> when I walk on by girls be like “Damn he fly!” <john_f> rlevArch: udev rules define everything <nathan28> unless you really want the 4-second fade, use the –no-fade flag <gtmanfred> nathan28: ok… but it still doesn’t make urxvt transpartent… * cythes is happy I got alsa walking as well as I broked awesome and brought it back to life 
<nathan28> gtmanfred: do you have an rgba:XXXX/XXXX/XXXX/XXXX in Xresources <prurigro> rlevArch, I’m not sure if my rm -rf got that far by the time I hit the kill switch– but it was fine when I rebooted <gtmanfred> nathan28: yes <prurigro> thankfully <rlevArch> john_f, prurigro thanks… intersting… I was just curious, I haven’t actually tried it :p <prurigro> rlevArch, yea, as curious a person as I am, I wasn’t planning on giving any certainty to that question 
<prurigro> one heart attack per computer is enough for me <rlevArch> yeah, ahh the joys of linux <milk> hmm, can anyone advise what might be causing this pacman issue? http://i.imgur.com/gnncu.png <andr_> sudo ls [path] before sudo rm [path], i’ve learned <falconindy> milk: you’re out of disk space <prurigro> rlevArch, heard of suicide linux? <gtmanfred> nathan28: http://sprunge.us/UWHY <gtmanfred> crap… <rlevArch> prurigro: do I want to? <gtmanfred> nathan28: http://sprunge.us/gZJS that is my xresources <vodik> milk: don’t use mirrors.kernel.org <vodik> milk: but what falconindy said <prurigro> rlevArch, hear about maybe, use probably not http://sourceforge.net/projects/suicide-linux/ <phrik> Title: Suicide-Linux | Free software downloads at SourceForge.net (at sourceforge.net) <tchebb> vodik: Wait, why not? <vodik> tchebb: slooooow * xuser has always use kernel.org <vodik> tchebb: its throttled <tchebb> vodik: Hmm, interesting. I’ll have to move it lower in my mirrorlist <vodik> was never ment for direct use <Fandekasp> hi there. For the first time, a “makepkg -s” fails and I don’t understand why: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/547121/ . Does that mean the package on AUR is broken ? <phrik> Title: Paste #547121 | LodgeIt! (at paste.pocoo.org) <xuser> seems very up to date ain’t it? <milk> falconindy: ooh shit, danke <andr_> uncomment every mirror in your country, then cp mirrorlist mirrorlist.backup, then rankmirrors -n 6 mirrorlist.backup > mirrorlist <gtmanfred> nathan28: nm, i jsut remembered tucos found this earlier http://bugs.i3wm.org/report/ticket/220 <phrik> Title: #220 (No “truly” transparent urxvt terminal) – i3 window manager (at bugs.i3wm.org) <rlevArch> prurigro: hahaha, great concept <nathan28> gtmanfred: not positive, but try ‘URxvt.depth’ rather than ‘urxvt*depth’ <rlevArch> reminds me of nethack <john_f> Fandekasp: yes, the patch in it is too old. <gtmanfred> nope, still doesn’t work <Fandekasp> john_f: ok… Then I need to learn how to create my own package <nathan28> andr_: then cron job relfector, too <prurigro> rlevArch, haha, true eh– though with nethack you could just cheat and save your config dir <nathan28> *reflector <vodik> Fandekasp: strip out the patch and see if it still works <andr_> nathan28: ya lost me <vodik> Fandekasp: may have been applied upstream <nathan28> andr_: on the uncommenting local mirrors <nathan28> not sure who you were adddressing <rlevArch> prurigro: if i ever played it seriously enough to care <vodik> anyways, night <nathan28> man i hate this keyboard <prurigro> rlevArch, I hate losing haha <prurigro> but yea, true <andr_> nathan28: not ringin a bell <prurigro> playing longer than like an hour is an impressive feat <nathan28> at 00:06, “uncomment every mirror”… someone was asking about kernel.org being slow <Fandekasp> john_f: as vodik advised, I removed the patch and the lines referencing it in the MAKEPKG file, and it didn’t raise an error. I’ll assume it worked and pacman -U <rlevArch> wow, past midnight already… i’m off to bed. night y’all <andr_> nathan28: looking it up now <andr_> quick question. it there anything out there that will show processes paired with the files they have open, sorted by disk IO rate? <john_f> iotop <falconindy> you can lookup open FDs for a given process… but you would need something like slabtop or iotop <andr_> john_f: thanks. <gtmanfred> vhat is vim-ultisnaps? <andr_> nathan28: no, i just meant i didn’t know what you meant by ‘reflector’. i just found it <nathan28> andr_: a bloated version of rankmirrors, like the sorting methods better tho <andr_> nathan28: aha. <gtmanfred> … hmm no idea… <emhs> How d’you make the mkinitcpio net hook wait for dhcp? <nathan28> time to wrangle pkgs and pretend to sleep <emhs> Anyone got an opinion on a torrent client that can run as a daemon? <Tom^> doesnt rtorrent let you do that? <yitz_> emhs: transmission-cli <meyithi> deluge does too, it’s pretty much a standard feature now <gtmanfred> Tom^: yes https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RTorrent#Run_as_a_daemon <phrik> Title: rTorrent – ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) <andr_> rtorrent doesn’t have a daemon switch i don’t think <andr_> or, gtmanfred knows better <gtmanfred> <gtmanfred> andr_: it requires running it in screen though, so not a switch, so you were correct too <yitz_> “daemon”? <meyithi> I like trans-cli tho because it has no gtk/qt deps and you can use web interface thats bundled with it <andr_> i used dtach, but yes, same idea <gtmanfred> crap… what is the flag for missing dependencies in pacman ? <falconindy> wat <falconindy> there is no such flag. it just happens. <andr_> as in ignoring missing deps? -d and -dd <andr_> -d ignores versions, just makes sure any version of a dep is installed, -dd ignores the dep entirely <andr_> IIRC <gtmanfred> no, … like for somereason, my computer keeps wanting to replace vim-snipmate with vim-utilsnip… and the latter keeps saying it requires py>=2.6 or any py3… which i have… <andr_> hm <falconindy> there is no such thing as an ‘or’ dependency <gtmanfred> falconindy: http://i.imgur.com/QgpHW.jpg <falconindy> that’d not a pacman error <gtmanfred> i know… <andr_> best. desktop. ever. <andr_> i have the one with the night sky. <gtmanfred> andr_: i think we went over this last night? <andr_> this is my first day using IRC in years. <andr_> so probably not <gtmanfred> oh… nm then… <andr_> i remember reading about a setup where the NASA APOD is dropped in behind calvin & hobbes each day <andr_> with some script <gtmanfred> yeah.. that <andr_> yeah. cool stuff <gtmanfred> andr_: this one https://raw.github.com/fsk141/scripts/master/chapod <gtmanfred> falconindy: what is wrong then? * falconindy shrugs <falconindy> im goin to sleep <gtmanfred> ok… night <andr_> night <digdin> hi <andr_> hello <gtmanfred> hello <digdin> when I run hostname, (none) show… someone knows? <gtmanfred> digdin: set it in your rc.conf? <digdin> http://pastebin.com/xD2VjWd1 <phrik> Title: # # /etc/rc.conf – Main Configuration for Arch Linux # # See ‘man 5 rc.conf’ – Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) <digdin> my rc.conf <gtmanfred> digdin: see the part where it says hostname in that file? change it to your desired hostname <flash__> lulz <digdin> no work <flash__> that’s fairly important <digdin> hostname continue none <setkeh> hey guys im curious today I have a modem and its a pain int the backside is it possible to use and old pci modem and somthing like wvdial to use an adsl connection and compleatly eliminate the heap of crap <gtmanfred> digdin: reboot <digdin> sure! :p <flash__> setkeh: aren’t those old pci modems for dial-up only? <andr_> setkeh: wow. i’ve long forgotten anything about modem config <flash__> looks like there are some dsl pci modems <flash__> so i stand corrected <flash__> i’ve never seen anybody use one though <setkeh> yeah thats what im confused about the modems documentation doesent say anything about it being limited to 56k also 3g modems also dial in a simeler fasion thats why io ask <chrisf> what’s the best way to quietly determine whether `pacman -Syu` would do anything, without actually altering the system [or package db!] ? <setkeh> chrisf: run it and answere no when it asks you if you want to continue <gtmanfred> chrisf: http://sprunge.us/WAJO <chrisf> ~ i want to put a ‘there’s new stuff’ indicator in my i3bar <gtmanfred> chrisf: use that script, safe way, outputs what needs updating into a file <chrisf> gtmanfred: that looks reasonable <flash__> setkeh: you could easily get an external dsl modem <flash__> setkeh: im assuming you just don’t want to use the phone company’s modem that they leased you? <gtmanfred> chrisf: then put it in your /etc/cron.hourly/ file and it will check hourly, at the moment, that one is set to put it in /home/daniel/.private/updates.txt <setkeh> flash__: yeah problem is my connection is so unstable i would rather not wait for parts <setkeh> flash__: well i own the modem outright but it is a streaming pile <flash__> setkeh: you could always check newegg for highly rated dsl modems <flash__> setkeh: i own my own cable modem, and it works fabulously <andr_> flash__: +1. they can’t be spendy <chrisf> all consumer-grade dsl modems are steaming piles c_c <andr_> chrisf: eh. they’ve gotten good recently i’ve seen <andr_> chrisf: my at&t one at home is unbearable <andr_> chrisf: but i’ve seen some good ones <gtmanfred> i like the old cisco/linksys one that was stackable with the wrt54g models… wish i could find one that isn’t broken <andr_> what are you up to right now, #archlinux? <Tom^> compiling bumblebee on my netbook :< <Thraspic> Slaughter of innocents. <gtmanfred> looking at different tiling window managers seeing if I can find one that has everything I want from dwm and a bar like i3bar… <Tom^> awesomewm <Tom^> !next <phrik> Another satisfied customer! NEXT! <gtmanfred> Tom^: nope <gtmanfred> !wm <andr_> /threa <phrik> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager Session Close: Tue Feb 07 00:52:02 2012 * Disconnected * Attempting to rejoin channel #archlinux * Rejoined channel #archlinux * Topic is ‘Welcome to Arch Linux World Domination, Inc. <+> https://www.archlinux.org/news/pacman-4-moves-to-core/ <+> PLEASE READ BEFORE UPGRADING https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57205‘ * Set by MrElendig on Sun Feb 05 17:38:44 <MrElendig> TDJACR: tried a different port yet? <hi117> excuse me if this is the wrong channel, but #xorg redirected a problem here <MrElendig> TDJACR: also, do you have both keyboards connected at once? <TDJACR> MrElendig: Yes sir, and no sir, respectively. <gtmanfred> hi117: do you have arch? <hi117> i did a -Syu and now X wont start <MrElendig> TDJACR: can you ssh in from another box? <MrElendig> hi117: error please <gtmanfred> hi117: what window manager? <TDJACR> MrElendig: Yes, give me a second * MrElendig bets hi117 has custom cairo <hi117> aweosme, and no error it seems… <TDJACR> MrElendig: I appreciate the help <MrElendig> hi117: rtfn <dark3rdre4ms> MrElendig: probably <MrElendig> hi117: then read the last part of the topic <gtmanfred> seconded <Nisstyre> I had cairo-tee or some stupid shit like that <MrElendig> hi117: you have cairo-xcb from aur, and you did not rebuild it against the new libpng <Nisstyre> had to force remove it <TDJACR> MrElendig: why ssh? <Nisstyre> and then install the package from the main repo <MrElendig> Nisstyre: you could have just rebuilt <hi117> ah i see <Nisstyre> MrElendig: didn’t work for some reason <Nisstyre> but I didn’t need it anyway <MrElendig> TDJACR: because I want you to test something that will make your keyboard unusable while you test it ;p <MrElendig> TDJACR: though ps/2 keyboard would also workj <hi117> but wait, i installed libpng14 from the aur and the problem is still there, if im not mistaken, that should fix it <MrElendig> work* <MrElendig> or osd keyboard <Nisstyre> MrElendig: iirc there was an error while trying to build it <TDJACR> Oh I have a PS2 <TDJACR> One sec <MrElendig> hi117: don’t install that crap <gtmanfred> hi117: nope, resintall all packages that require libpng <MrElendig> hi117: just rebuild cairo-xcb <MrElendig> (reinstalling won’t work, you have to rebuild) <hi117> ok, be back, ty <gtmanfred> MrElendig: that is what I meant <MrElendig> hi117: are you using the [archlinuxfr] repo? <TDJACR> MrElendig: PS2 connected * sledgehammer is more convinced every day that we need an Arch Operator’s Licence, to be issued only after stringent skillz tests <MrElendig> TDJACR: unload uhci_usb and ehci_usb, then only load ehci_usb <dark3rdre4ms> sledgehammer: lol <MrElendig> then reload the usb_hid module <Chelsea> I accidentally (well… followed the wrong instructions prolly) removed vesa in my quest to get nvidia-utils installed. Now X won’t start, and I can’t install vesa (pacman -Qs vesa doesn’t yield anything). Pl<Nisstyre> sledgehammer: I think you should be prompted to read the news before doing any upgrading <TDJACR> uhci_usb is not registered as a module <Nisstyre> like, pacman should print a link to the news <MrElendig> Chelsea: what vm? <Nisstyre> and suggest you read it <gColossus> hmm <gColossus> how to clear the dns cache on archlinux? <MrElendig> gColossus: there is no cache <Nisstyre> or even print out the latest warnings right in the terminal <phsi> pacman is not a newsreader 
<MrElendig> gColossus: unless you are running a local dns server on your box <Chelsea> MrElendig, no virtual machine, bare metal. <TDJACR> MrElendig: uhci_usb is not registered as a module <sledgehammer> Nisstyre, ffs… you want it to wipe your arse too? <Nisstyre> phsi: obviously not <MrElendig> Chelsea: then don’t say guest :p <MrElendig> Chelsea: what gfx card <gtmanfred> !give Nisstyre ubuntu <phrik> Nisstyre: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rbeqbj-n1Z0/Skeak1qBGyI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3k_ntrDWmOw/s1600-h/ubuntu.png <MrElendig> Chelsea: also read the pacman man page, -Qs does not do what you think it does <Nisstyre> sledgehammer: no, but it would be nice to be warned before doing anything, just in case you accidentally upgrade without realizing there’s a problem <meyithi> Nisstyre: pacmatic does that <gColossus> MrElendig: cool, thx <Chelsea> MrElendig, I guess my keyboard settings don’t work 100% in a tty. sorry for that. Nvidia graphics card. <sledgehammer> Nisstyre, keenerd will be along any minute to sell you pacmatic <TDJACR> MrElendig: I may be having a kernel issue, I’ll be back in a sec (rebooting) <MrElendig> Chelsea: _what_ card <immaqa> vim users … what do i do about this UltiSnips requires py >= 2.6 or any py3 nonsense? <gtmanfred> immaqa: remove it <MrElendig> Chelsea: need exact model <Nisstyre> gtmanfred: the comparison to ubuntu is hardly valid <immaqa> gtmanfred: remove ultisnips? <gtmanfred> yes <MrElendig> immaqa: change shebang then it will work fine <Nisstyre> all I’m thinking of is a few lines of text printed out <gtmanfred> MrElendig: shebang? <sledgehammer> Nisstyre, if you’re the kind of person who “accidentally upgrades”, you shouldn’t be allowed wthin 10 metres of any ARCH MACHINE <immaqa> MrElendig: takk fyrir <sledgehammer> woah… accidental capslock <LPhas> hi, i have to install archlinux on a computer that have two SATA 1TB hard drive and i’d like to make a RAID 1, but i don’t really know where to start. Any hint? <MrElendig> immaqa: vim supports scripts written in both py2 and py3 btw <MrElendig> !give LPhas wiki software raid <phrik> LPhas: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_RAID_and_LVM <MrElendig> LPhas: urgh, there is a page that is just about raid and not lvm too <MrElendig> LPhas: or you can just ignore the lvm part <Nisstyre> sledgehammer: lots of people upgrade packages without researching first, and most of the time it’s fine <gtmanfred> MrElendig: remove the shebang where? <Nisstyre> but that 1% of the time when there is an issue related to that package… <hi117> and you wind up like me <sledgehammer> Nisstyre, clearly, logs ot unsuitable people use Arch – hence the need for an Operator’s License <hi117> if youre lucky <sledgehammer> lots* <MrElendig> gtmanfred: not remove, but fix <LPhas> MrElendig, i can’t understand what part does the “RAID utility” on the motherboard in that. <Chelsea> MrElendig, Unfortunately the exact model isn’t readable. It’s an Asus with Nvidia chipset. Didn’t have problems with the standard nvidia package before I did a complete reinstall though. <MrElendig> LPhas: do not use the fakeraid on your mobo <Nisstyre> sledgehammer: what’s your definition of “unsuitable” ? <LPhas> MrElendig, oh, why? <MrElendig> LPhas: unless you are going to access the raid from windows too <sledgehammer> Nisstyre, the people you’re describing <Orii> 17:20 < Orii> hey im trying to do the kmod/module-init-tools replacement but i the the following error: <gtmanfred> MrElendig: … where? it is doing it on files that don’t have shebangs <Orii> 17:20 < Orii> error: failed to commit transactiom (conflicting files) <Orii> 17:21 < Orii> initscripts: /etc/profile.d/locale.sh exits in filesystem <Orii> 17:21 < Orii> errors occured, no packages upgraded <MrElendig> LPhas: because fakeraid is HORRIBLE and KILLS KITTENS <Orii> 17:36 < Orii> locale.sh is what sets the language <Orii> 17:36 < Orii> but i dont understand why things are conflicting <gtmanfred> !give Orii locale.sh <phrik> Orii: http://www.archlinux.org/news/initscripts-update-manual-intervention-required/ <MrElendig> LPhas: and is a lot of trouble <Nisstyre> sledgehammer: so you should scour the internet every time you want to upgrade something for potential side-effects?
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