<flyback-> in fact thats why 32 bit windows can only see around 3.25gb of ram <theBear> course cheap manufacturers stopped putting a basic rom in the suckers before at machines (286 that is) were common <Eduard_Munteanu> But it does it nicely. <Eduard_Munteanu> You can remap it around. <flyback-> no m$ disabled that <flyback-> because of earlier pci devices or drivers that assume 4gb is the limit <frogs> flyback-: windows can’t handle PAE? <flyback-> it uses PAE for the NX bit <flyback-> but they won’t allow it for more ram * theBear jumps up jumps up and remaps it around <furrywolf> uploading pictures of mystery bolt/plug now. <theBear> i think perhaps another coffee is what we need to get me back into this chair for 5 minutes, and then out of it 
<SpeedEvil> PCI is just 32 bits isn’t it? <frogs> yessir <SpeedEvil> I mean, you can’t use PAE for PCI <furrywolf> http://fw.bushytails.net/mysterybolt01.jpg http://fw.bushytails.net/mysterybolt02.jpg <Eduard_Munteanu> SpeedEvil: yeah but you can use the GART to remap accesses <Eduard_Munteanu> Or an IOMMU. <Eduard_Munteanu> TBH, that’s only useful on a 64-bit CPU, I guess. <flyback-> no later mode pci cards did dual address cycle <flyback-> and pci-e who knows what the lkimit is <frogs> zigggggy knows, he has access to the standard <Eduard_Munteanu> Yeah, but 32-bit PCI is still common. <flyback-> why would jewbaka have access <furrywolf> it’s very strongly magnetic, and it’s heavy, so it must be some form of stainless, but it has a lusture I don’t recognize. it almost looks like very heavy cad plate, but not quite… <frogs> flyback-: he is in the PCI express group <SpeedEvil> nickle? <flyback-> jhow the fuck did that happen <frogs> flyback-: sometimes he goes to hotels and does PCI express card signal validation <furrywolf> hrmm, could be. is nickel so magnetic? <flyback-> no and neither is good staindless <Eduard_Munteanu> Bah, at least the HyperTransport spec is free. <frogs> flyback-: then they bring prototype cards to the room and it gets tested for pci express signal compliance <furrywolf> it doesn’t look like plating, since the scratches are the same color. <Eduard_Munteanu> It sucks needing access to PCI$IG <flyback-> good <flyback-> he’s gone <furrywolf> it’s safety-critical, judging from all the safety wire holes. <flyback-> after the shit he accused me of last year, he can drop dead <Casper> WTH ↠crazy truck driver <furrywolf> flyback-: what’s my mystery part? 
<SpeedEvil> nickle is magnetic <flyback-> huh <MorkBork> looks like a typical drain plug <MorkBork> maybe an oil pan etc <flyback-> ooh lemme look <SpeedEvil> And there are various nickle superalloys <furrywolf> MorkBork: typical drain plugs don’t have safety wire holes, and are an easily-identifiable alloy. <MorkBork> yes they do <flyback-> oh that’s probably just a alnico magnet <MorkBork> i guess youve never seen a motorcycle <flyback-> they always put those in oil pans and tranny pans <MorkBork> much more common to see the holes on motorcycles <MorkBork> since the sheer potential is higher i guess <furrywolf> it’s not magnetic itself, but it is attracted very strongly by a magnet. <theBear> hmmm…. that is a funny lookin bolt <furrywolf> MorkBork: I’ve worked with a lot of metal, and I can’t identify the alloy/plating. and I’ve never seen a plug with safety wire. <furrywolf> silver cad is my best guess, but I’m not confident in it. <theBear> the dimple n the middle and the hole up inside the thread is what gets me <theBear> i’ve seen plugs with little things thru them so they can’t be dropped/lost, i could attribute the top holes to that <furrywolf> the dimple in the middle is to run safety wire. the hole in the middle… weight saving? that would point to aerospace. <furrywolf> theBear: that would be one hole, not the pattern. that’s for safety wire. <frogs> furrywolf: maybe you stole it from the airport <theBear> almost looks like a grease gun thing, but it’s just shoot grease out the sides <MorkBork> www.google.com/search?q=motorcycle+drain+plug+safety+wire&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: Is it magnetic – does it pick stuff up? <furrywolf> of the “people die if this falls out” variety. <furrywolf> SpeedEvil: no, it’s not magnetic itself, but it’s attracted to a magnet very strongly. <theBear> it’s a nice colour <theBear> i’m not magnetic myself, but i think magnets are pretty sexy * SpeedEvil proves theBear wrong by levitating him in a magnet <furrywolf> it’s a very, very flat texture. <MorkBork> whats the threading <furrywolf> dunno. doesn’t look like anything I have handy to test it with. <Whiskey`Wonka> yay! <theBear> lol, i mighta mentioned the german and another friend came to visit last night, they say it’s cos i was a little tipsy, but i swear, every time i’ve seen him over the last almost year, his english has gotten <mroh> can someone help me build this rodin coil? <MorkBork> not sure why you think it ISNT a drain plug <Whiskey`Wonka> doing the sleep in, all goes well, out of the damn hospital tomorrow! <frogs> mroh: i will help <theBear> i said texture, and we had quite a giggle trying to explain to him both what we were saying, and what it meant <frogs> mroh: most people wind them on a plastic ring that is part of a specific baby toy <theBear> lol, and he can’t get the word ‘mechanical’ right …. that got us both laughing last night <furrywolf> MorkBork: because I’ve removed several hundred of them, and never seen anything like it? if it’s a drain plug, it’s not automotive. <MorkBork> so whered you get it <MorkBork> i mean not to be a dick or anything but come on <MorkBork> http://emotorules.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/146_0002_01_zsafety_wiring_techniques.jpg?w=450&h=337 <furrywolf> dunno. I buy boxes of random fasteners at yard sales. <furrywolf> it was in one of them. <MorkBork> your image doesnt have much in the way of context for size, but it looks to be about the profile of a drain plug <MorkBork> just sayin <flyback-> i’m going to die soon <frogs> flyback-: the death clock does not agree <flyback-> im speeding it up <furrywolf> yeah, it does look like a drain plug, and if it looked like regular steel, nickel plated steel, zinc plated steel, phosphate, or anything else I’d seen before, it’d be obvious… <furrywolf> it looks more like heavy silver cad than anything else, but I can’t imagine why someone would cad plate a drain plug… <pnorman> furrywolf: I buy random boxes too <frogs> furrywolf: if it was designed as part of an item where the goal was to produce it for the maximal price <furrywolf> I’m finding quite a few pictures of motorcycle drain plugs with safety wire holes, but they all are standard platings. <MorkBork> if its composition is that important <MorkBork> calculate its density <MorkBork> you’re a hippy so you probably have a scale accurate enough <furrywolf> the only scales I have are a 70lb postal scale, from harbor freight. and a 250lb industrial scale, which is badly out of calibration. <frogs> furrywolf: you can make relative measurements using a certain volume of water <furrywolf> hrmm, only thing I’ve found so far is a suggestion lycoming engines might use them. <TransX2> Hey furrywolf! <MorkBork> or maybe its just somebody who really loved their <MorkBork> and spent $50 on a drain plug <furrywolf> that could be, too. <furrywolf> never rule out idiots! <MorkBork> go look up ducati parts <MorkBork> or aftermarket for a bmw s1000rr <MorkBork> etc etc <HTT-Bird> furrywolf: that’d make sense <HTT-Bird> oil drain plug for the engine on say a Cessna or Piper <HTT-Bird> and the funny alloy might be an aluminum alloy of some sort or something else slightly fancy due to weight issues <theBear> hmm… anyone know how to pass say ~/.* to du so it works like it does with say, ls (just normal manual shell) <frogs> -d <theBear> err, is there no -d <frogs> my du has -d (depth) <theBear> normal du it seems to work, but i want -s also (summary, so just dirs, not what’s inside them <theBear> hmm… <theBear> oh sorry, the cmdline options are in a silly order in the doc <theBear> nice one ! <theBear> thanks dude ! <furrywolf> grrrr, back. <furrywolf> forgot how fucking easily stock linksys routers crash. <theBear> heh <furrywolf> they all do the same thing… the still transmit, but you can’t associate with them. <flyback-> dont want to hear it <theBear> take that ! <flyback-> no i told him, what to do <flyback-> he doesnt listen <theBear> recently i’ve grown fond of err, whaddya call it, ‘rolling up’ ? windows when i’m using lots of stuff and don’t feel like dealing with some kinda taskbar or long alt-tab lists <furrywolf> what impractical/useless suggestion did you have this time? <flyback-> 3 cap <flyback-> known to go bad <flyback-> shit brand <theBear> little flick of the mousewheel, kinda cascade them a bit so you can find them when one or 2 other windows are open <frogs> cactus farm suggestion from flyback was pretty funny <theBear> whadheh <theBear> woops <furrywolf> did you not pay any attention when I said I was buying an antenna with built-in router? <flyback-> i never said cactus <flyback-> i said agave <theBear> whaddya know about dlink wifi routermodems ? mums is goin flakey on the fast train to err, the cactus farm, and i aint got no tools when i’m down there <flyback-> yes but you bitching about the stinkpiss right now <furrywolf> theBear: I know they’re utter crap, and should be replaced. <frogs> i had a D-link hub which melted <flyback-> someoner like you <flyback-> what would thayt take <frogs> power supply melted, rather <flyback-> a whole 3 mins? <flyback-> omfg <flyback-> ther horror <theBear> furrywolf, but, it’s always worked well till recently, and i hate how often i DO see my mum get suckered into buying new stuff (like how i’ve got that ‘broken’ sprinkler controller i just finished thoroughly <theBear> flat membatt symptoms too <theBear> point is, it worked till recently, should i be looked at a new supply or caps or nothing common in all dlinks ? <furrywolf> hrmm… I think the router isn’t actually crashing. it’s coming back way too fast. instead everything (and I mean everything) is getting clobbered by some new interference source. <furrywolf> crashed linksys routers always take several minutes to figure it out. <theBear> frogs, they DO run warm, and for some reason it’s not an original one, tho is to spec <furrywolf> my noise is -85, instead of its usual -91. <bcsllc> yummm warm apple pie <theBear> i should really at least remember to take the meter next time i’m there and look at the input <zigggggy> the best router is one that runs on bsd <theBear> times like this one of those cheap scope-meters would be handy <zigggggy> i have tried every consumer router and they are just all junk <theBear> there are consumer routers that run bsd ? <frogs> zigggggy, do you use natd? <zigggggy> i dont know what that is frogs <zigggggy> bear, if you have old hardware or buy a SB <zigggggy> SBC <flyback-> theFail <flyback-> a lot of router gear uses shit caps <theBear> I used to live with for a long time, and was very close to for a slightly shorter time, a girl called Nat D. well, it’s not like we were rappers, we never called her that, but technically that is her name <flyback-> also while you have it open <flyback-> they almost always have a serialuart <flyback-> wire it up so you can monitor <frogs> mine runs vxworks and is not reliable, i might change it to rasberry pie if freebsd is ported to i <frogs> it * griffon uses nothing but ubiquiti products <zigggggy> i like pfsense for freebsd <flyback-> pain is so flared up right now I am about to seriously consider pulling the plug <flyback-> pfsense is nice <theBear> hmm… i suppose… if i think about it… until the new reflector i recently knocked up for reception at the back of the house in ‘my room’ and noticed it was all screwy and crashy, she could never get wifi <frogs> pf is very trendy <flyback-> I been running monowall the last few yrs <theBear> my mum has stopped me starving for the last several months, it’s nice to do things for her <flyback-> but swirching to liknux and retiring that 486-133 soekris <flyback-> to use for other projects <griffon> most ubiquiti products also include a nice spectrumanalyzer as well <zigggggy> pfsense was more featured back when i switched from monowall to pfsense <flyback-> yeah ubi stuff owns your “cannuck” <zigggggy> monowall, as i recall, is meant to run on very minimal hardware * flyback- dropkicks Casper and tosses him at zigggggy <zigggggy> :/ <griffon> flyback-: owns my cannuck? <flyback-> oh I thought this was super mario II <theBear> i’ve always done iptables based networking stuff, tho for a lot of things pf does seem to have a few advantages, the hash tables look awesome for BIG tables of addresses and crap, and a lot of the sensing/ac<flyback-> yeah <flyback-> like “smurf” <theBear> super mario 2 ? * theBear runs and ducks and does a smooth slide under a random block <flyback-> yeah I pluck canucks out of the ground and hurl them at people <theBear> awesomeness, it IS SMII … only one you could duck and slide… <theBear> well you know, before they invented the n64 and that gamecube thing <theBear> i liked being the little dude with the big fluffy hat, cos he looked funniest doing duck-slides <flyback-> <flyback-> casper and ziggy <frogs> zigggggy, Eduard_Munteanu would appreciate if you could give him a copy of the latest revision of the pci express specification <flyback-> probably can’t <flyback-> since those *******s at rambus probably have their shit all thru it <griffon> iirc the latest PCI spec is torrentable <griffon> thats how i got it >.> <frogs> zigggggy has a login to the actual site <theBear> i was big back then… king of mario and every other game i could find on nes… i was in competitions and crap, hell, i owned a powerglove ! (got one now too, but no receiver-unit) … hmm… i should find a<frogs> Members Only <theBear> anyone remember that sucker ? <flyback-> unfortunitely <zigggggy> frogs, i would if i could, but im prob not allowed <theBear> griffon, hehe, well said <Eduard_Munteanu> He can? That’d be nice. Dunno about torrents though. <Eduard_Munteanu> I guessed so. <griffon> s/PCI/PCIe/ <griffon> geez still not used to pcie <frogs> flyback-: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/31/rambus_barth_3_invalidated/ <theBear> i suppose, that’s why they have disclaimers on the first page like fbi documents have a big red “TOP SECRET” on there… incase you accidentally download it and open it up, you’ll see that you aren’t qualifie<furrywolf> %$#!!! 4shared.com and linode appear to have a very good connection to each other. <flyback-> frogs like that will stop them <furrywolf> I downloaded 91MB in 5 seconds. <furrywolf> I want a connection like that at home. * flyback- bites huitaryan <flyback-> CANUCK <flyback-> CANUCK <theBear> that’s the problem with torrents vs websites, you haven’t got someone to think for you and tell you what to download or do with torrents, just endless possibilities and the power of your imagination 
<theBear> easy there fishboy <furrywolf> also, if you ever need to know, 4shared works in lynx. <Eduard_Munteanu> Though some of the stuff I’ve been interested in is answered by Hypertransport specs. <efc> Just soldered together a ps/2-serial adapter for an intellimouse.. bastards swapped some pins. Still didn’t work. <Eduard_Munteanu> At least partially. <theBear> lol <furrywolf> theBear: that’s a problem? <theBear> efc, i did that first time i tried to make a mouse cable <SpeedEvil> efc: you do know ps/2 and serial have nothing in common? <flyback> I wonder if I can numb up my taint enought o cut it wide open <efc> Yes <theBear> furrywolf, sometimes i wish irc could show the tone of my voice <efc> its a combo <SpeedEvil> efc: ah <frogs> flyback, drink a lot of ethanol <flyback> RGAR’S WHAT SHE SAID <theBear> “they call me massive, it’s ironic, in’nit” <flyback> its a combo <zigggggy> dont you have to be a member of the PCI sig if you are building a PCI compliant device? <flyback> frogs I have neoporin with novacane <zigggggy> as that is the only way to get verified <zigggggy> ? <zigggggy> and use the pci protocol? <flyback> I am close to the point where I can going to rip this fucking limp out now <flyback> I don’t care if I sterialize myself in the process <furrywolf> theBear: if you’re looking for something to download, The Boss Martians don’t seem to be half bad, at least based on the one album I’ve listened to. <frogs> zigggggy, yes <flyback> lump even <Eduard_Munteanu> zigggggy: I wasn’t building a real device, just emulating one in KVM <zigggggy> oh <Huitaryan> flyback, is there any particular reason why my nationality is novel to you? <flyback> yeah <flyback> I hate eh-holes <Eduard_Munteanu> Namely the AMD IOMMU, and wondered about some PCIe-related stuff. <Huitaryan> I see <flyback> they command vile acts of terrorism such as alaannis moresette’s singing career <flyback> <flyback> welcome to the channel <Huitaryan> truly a travesty <theBear> zigggggy, it’s kinda like how you can pretend to be any old usb hid device inside your own pcs and it’s not really an issue, the problems arise when you start selling them in an open market, or when all this<theBear> ‘cos you know, if you could impersonate a different kind of usb brand/device and forensics needed to check if you were a terrorist, you could have hidden something from them ! <flyback> actually now <Casper> Huitaryan: he’s jealous <theBear> naughty naughty terrorist zigggggy ! <flyback> they are using the terroirist wildcard <flyback> to keep some hw and sw specs closed <flyback> ask the coreboot team <flyback> my solution is just tio go sell out to terrorists and let them burn the country to the ground <theBear> but, but, that’s like “if we let them change our way of life, the terrorists have already won !” <griffon> flyback: what about the coreboot team? <flyback> tired of all the asshole cock suckers in the country anyways * Eduard_Munteanu wonders if there’s anything like private PCI ids <theBear> hehe, tropical thunder … “fine, kill him that’s right, we do NOT negotiate with terrorists in this organisation !” <Eduard_Munteanu> Like, for private use in an organisation. <theBear> i suspect i paraphrased and that needed more swear words <theBear> lol@dns <flyback> theBear: no it’s simple <Eduard_Munteanu> e.g. some custom PCI board <flyback> I am fucking taylor at the end of “planet of the apes II” <flyback> looks aroound before he dies <flyback> sees fucking assholes all around him
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