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<toofishes> stop hating cats, just because you like dogs doesn’t mean you have to be a meanie <vodik> although that does look weird <toofishes> and honestly, who gives a shit <toofishes> <falconindy> maahes: pacman -Q linux <vodik> mr fork <jwesleycooper> hmm, it works from the physical machine <vodik> jwesleycooper: firewalls maybe? <falconindy> !aliens <phrik> http://i.imgur.com/Laj7b.jpg <maahes> falconindy: returns -> linux 3.2.4-1 <vodik> firealients <jwesleycooper> vodik: yeah, gonna check those settings now <falconindy> maahes: so rerun mkinitcpio -p linux <falconindy> lsinitcpio -a /boot/initramfs-linux.img # when its done and make sure it actually has modules and matches your kernel… <sasy360> scrawky, yes. it was working flawlessly. i don’t know it was a kernel or nouveau update caused this. <gtmanfred> lake: did you read that page? <falconindy> or better yet, -Syu… 3.2.5 is in core <maahes> grr… mount -o bind /dev isn’t erroring for me, but /dev is still not mounting. <jwesleycooper> hmm, so I guess adding VNC server should fix this, trying that <falconindy> maahes: mount /proc <toofishes> wat? <maahes> okay, that’s weird. my mtab is read-only (even with sudo), and I mv’d it to mtab.old and remade a new one…but now there’s another new mtab with a bunch of crap I didn’t put in it. <falconindy> and /sys, for that matter <toofishes> maahes: /etc/mtab is a symlink now… <maahes> oh wrong terminal * falconindy headdesk <nikora> anyone know a good macro for recording and playing keyboard/mouse input? <maahes> toofishes: symlink to what? since I have to re-symlink it now <toofishes> /proc/self/mounts <jwesleycooper> yep, it was the firewall, lol <jwesleycooper> thx guys <toofishes> !next <phrik> Another satisfied customer! NEXT! <toofishes> __ <toofishes> ‘. <toofishes> ‘- <toofishes> / /_ .—. <toofishes> / | ,./–.// ) <toofishes> | // )/ / <toofishes> ‘ ^ ^ / )____.—-.. 6 <toofishes> ‘.____. .___/ ._) <toofishes> ./. ) <toofishes> ‘ / <toofishes> _/ / ). ) ( <toofishes> /# .! | / / <toofishes> C// # /’—–”/ # / <toofishes> . ‘C/ | | | | |mrf , <toofishes> ), .. .’OOO-’. ..’OOO’OOO-’. ..(, <falconindy> if only we could teach that to phrik <toofishes> something tells me that is a bad idea <yabai> giddy up! <toofishes> 10th year anniversary special elephant <jwesleycooper> lol, I forsee people with small screens having a field day <maahes> okay if /etc/mtab is a symlink now, why am I unable to edit /proc/self/mounts ? <toofishes> because no file in /proc is ever editable <falconindy> because you don’t edit files in /proc <toofishes> why are you trying to edit that file at all? <maahes> toofishes: to add a proper /dev entry <falconindy> … <falconindy> really? <yabai> i had flashbacks of the an old printer moving across a page <maahes> dev is not mounting, because it’s not in mtab. <lstarnes> you mean fstab <falconindy> mount -t devtmpfs udev /dev <toofishes> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii <toofishes> |||||||H|A|P|P|Y||||||| <toofishes> __|_____________________|__ <toofishes> |/////////////| <toofishes> |||||||B|I|R|T|H|D|A|Y||||||| <lstarnes> and the init scripts should mount it even if it isn’t in fstab <toofishes> |,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,| <toofishes> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ <maahes> okay, fstab now, a little while ago I was using mtab, prior to updating and rebooting <falconindy> no <falconindy> you were never “using” mtab <falconindy> its not a file you use <maahes> falconindy: I was editing it, and it was working. Sue me <toofishes> mtab was updated by `mount` before <falconindy> you don’t edit mtab <falconindy> ever <maahes> no it wasn’t. <falconindy> for any reason <irakli> what is the best way to start wpa_supplicant at bootup? <toofishes> and if you were editing it, it was not working CORRECTLY, i know that much <jwesleycooper> really glad I’m not viewing this on my cell phone, the output would b a mess <maahes> falconindy: well, now I know. <jwbirdsong> and it;s a thrill a minute as usual here <diegoviola> nice, DMA-BUF will enable optimus to work with intel/nouveau. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA1NDE <phrik> Title: [Phoronix] DMA-BUF Is Ready To Push Forward Linux Drivers (at www.phoronix.com) <lstarnes> irakli: you should probably use it with some sort of network management like netcfg <diegoviola> <Jonimus> diegoviola: its just a step in that direction <diegoviola> nice <jwesleycooper> wow, this channel is pretty entertaining, not usual for linux irc channels <dmwit> diegoviola: nice, I’ve been using bumblebee or whatever it’s called and it’s a mess <Jonimus> A large step, but just a step. <diegoviola> dmwit: yeah screw those workarounds <toofishes> jwesleycooper: haha, what is “usual”? i’ve forgotten * Python3 wonders whose birthday it is. <diegoviola> the blob won’t be able to use DMA-BUF, lol <jwbirdsong> hell if phoronix said it .. it MUST be true <Jonimus> X still has no clue WTF to do with optimus setups. <diegoviola> the blob sucks <toofishes> Python3: arch, in 1 month. we hit double digits! <Python3> !archbirthday <Python3> !birthday <phrik> http://tinyurl.com/24ukdb9 <diegoviola> Jonimus: i heard they are working on that, and also wayland will support it <jwesleycooper> toofishes: well, the suse channel is pretty bland … * Python3 is surprised that link hasn’t broke, yet. 
<Python3> Internet Archive likes to occasionally punt things to different clusters. <maahes> okay reboot and try again. <Jonimus> except that wayland does lots of other things stupidly IMO <Jonimus> So bleh <diegoviola> Jonimus: like what? <jwesleycooper> toofishes: tho I remember one time someone went on their drunk, which was … interesting <toofishes> haha <Jonimus> The lack of network transparency, which I use daily for one. <diegoviola> Jonimus: … <diegoviola> Jonimus: that will come with a separate layer <toofishes> who in here is drunk? guarantee a few are <diegoviola> Jonimus: or later <diegoviola> Jonimus: don’t worry about it * Python3 likes the idea of the networking stuff being separate. <falconindy> maahes: …did you change anything? <Python3> (Or optional.) <diegoviola> Python3: i like too, more competition <diegoviola> Python3: unix design <diegoviola> minimal… <diegoviola> i can’t understand why people bitch so much <diegoviola> god damn it <jwesleycooper> and modular … <irakli> lstarnes: netcfg doesn’t have wpa2 support right? <Python3> X is a giant PITA. Its internals cause people to have strokes, which is why there aren’t very many things like compositors around. <diegoviola> X is fail <dmwit> X gets a lot of flak, but it actually does quite a good job at what it does. <Python3> And probably why driver-writers have such a hard time with it. <Jonimus> X does do a damn good job, and wayland does present some interesting things. <jwesleycooper> I thought x was basically a gui toolset with no policy <lake> gtmanfred: bookmarked it. thanks! <jwesleycooper> aren’t pretty much all of the *nix gui’s based on it? <Jonimus> jwesleycooper: at this point it is the only *nix gui, unless you count quartz <gtmanfred> lake: welcome 
<jwesleycooper> Jonimus: I’ve never even heard of that one … and yeah, I know that Gnome, KDE, XFCE4 use it as a basis <gtmanfred> Jonimus: what about wayland? <dmwit> Python3: Do you have any evidence that driver-writers have a difficult time because of X? <dmwit> Every complaint I’ve ever heard has been the chip-makers being uncooperative. <Jonimus> jwesleycooper: Quartz is Max OS x. <jwesleycooper> I’d think that having a specification that is 100% open would make dev’s lives, well, easier <Jonimus> gtmanfred: well yes Wayland, but its nots ready yet. <jwesleycooper> Jonimus: hehe, I’m not a mac guy, no wonder I didn’t know <gtmanfred> Jonimus: i have heard they are releasing 1.0 stable soon <Hwkiller> I honestly just want a rewrite of X. Same features, but with better compositing support, same client-server model, and network transparency <Jonimus> Hwkiller++ <Hwkiller> X’s configuration is just so archaic and clunky. that’s what really bugs me <Hwkiller> and that there are 1.5 million executables having to do with X at this point, b/c people have had to stick new twigs onto the tree <diegoviola> with wayland there won’t be a “X driver” anymore, just kernel driver, which would simplify things afaik. Session Close: Thu Feb 09 00:00:01 2012
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