[00:53:18] <celltech> How did WINE get installed when the last program I know I tried to instal was lmms? [00:53:23] <phix> !ubuntu [00:53:23] <ubottu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! – Also se<phix> there you go solringel 
[00:53:43] <solringel> thanks all for the support [00:53:47] <phix> any time [00:53:55] <phix> <3 [00:53:59] <solringel> linux rocks!!!!!!!!!!!! [00:54:03] <phix> woooo!!!! YEAH!!! [00:54:24] <almoxarife> celltech: when I installed ‘teamviewer’ I found that it installed wine, sort of tricky of it [00:54:45] <tripelb> llutz I’ve never seen a version of ubuntu with either irssi or xchat. (“should” means nothing, – It used to come with pidgin in 9.04, then none in 10.04 – “should” gives me no information. [00:55:03] <phix> almoxarife: heh yeah I loled when it did that [00:55:17] <celltech> almoxarife So I need to go back and uninstal WINE? Cause I really want nothing to do with it. Or should I go to Synaptic and removed anything and ever with the words WINE in it? [00:55:18] <llutz_> tripelb: so i was wrong, ignore me [00:55:38] <phix> tripelb: it does come with empathy though [00:55:42] <phix> tripelb: that can speak irc [00:56:03] <tripelb> phix, I am going to use a live cd so I cant install anything. On a mac. Why? to back up my data (prior to a clean install) and all I have is an ext4 (my old ubuntu from a dead computer.) [00:56:16] <almoxarife> celltech: I won’t tell you what to uninstall, I would find what has caused wine to install and decide from there [00:56:31] <phix> tripelb: ah, use empathy, it should be on the livecd [00:56:33] <tripelb> phix empathy has NO IRC client [00:56:38] <phix> tripelb: really> [00:56:41] <celltech> almoxarife I just want wine gone. it’s useless [00:56:50] <tripelb> didnt in 1004 phix [00:56:54] <almoxarife> celltech: alrighty [00:57:06] <phix> tripelb: it does though [00:57:16] <almoxarife> !info pidgin [00:57:21] <ubottu> pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.10.0-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 695 kB, installed size 2336 kB [00:58:03] <tripelb> OK well if it doesnt I cant ask in here. I sure hope it supports my wireless card, come to think of it. arg. OK thanks phlux [00:58:20] <empathyHasIRC> Looks like it does [00:58:29] <solringel> got a question [00:58:40] <empathyHasIRC> tripelb: [00:59:09] <almoxarife> solringel: ???? [00:59:10] <solringel> when the next major ubuntu release is out and i update does than mean i have to reinstall the packages i added? [00:59:11] <phix> tripelb: [01:00:34] <coolstar> Hi. i’m installing Ubuntu 11.10, and I’m experiencing some graphic related issues [01:00:35] <almoxarife> solringel: good question, the issue will be all them packages you installed via ppa being supported by the upgraded version, that’s why ppa’s are your own risk taking sort of thing [01:01:14] <almoxarife> solringel: so, don’t upgrade for about ?????? 6 months? yeah, that should do it [01:01:26] <solringel> didnt really understand that:-$ [01:01:29] <coolstar> Can anyone help me with my graphics issues on Ubuntu 11.10? [01:02:20] <solringel> is a ppa a package? [01:02:48] <almoxarife> solringel: nothing says that who ever offers up packages in a ppa will be supporting the next upgraded version of ubuntu, it’s a crap shoot [01:03:04] <coolstar> I have upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.10 and I’m having serious graphic issues [01:03:31] <almoxarife> solringel: no, packages are part of a ppa [01:03:50] <tripelb> thanks empathyhasirc [01:03:57] <tripelb> I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. [01:03:57] <tripelb> [01:03:57] <tripelb> I do not think that they will sing to me. [01:04:06] <coolstar> almoxarife: Can you help me with some graphic issues I’m having in ubuntu 11.10? [01:04:16] <solringel> oh then b4 i would upgrade to a major release i would remove those ppa’s [01:04:19] <almoxarife> coolstar: nvidia? [01:04:22] <coolstar> no [01:04:30] <coolstar> I have ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 [01:05:00] <coolstar> almoxarife: The graphics appear ok, except when moving windows, there’s a serious lag. [01:05:08] <almoxarife> coolstar: that also has a current drivers ppa from the manufacturer I believe [01:05:34] <coolstar> almoxarife: The graphics look ok, except there’s a lag when opening windows, closing windows, or moving windows [01:05:38] <almoxarife> coolstar: but I don’t know much about it, someone else may have ati [01:05:49] <coolstar> It’s just laggy [01:06:25] <almoxarife> coolstar: and there could be metric butt tons of reasons for that, way out of my meager know-how [01:06:54] <khc> I just upgraded to 11.10, both evolution and pidgin are saying I am not connected to the network, even though network manager shows the connected icon and I am connected to the internet [01:06:59] <coolstar> almoxarife: also, dbus-daemon uses 60% of the CPU [01:07:30] <almoxarife> coolstar: no idea, sorry [01:07:58] <almoxarife> khc: can you web browse? [01:08:13] <khc> almoxarife: yes [01:08:26] <khc> I can do everything, except convince programs that I am really connected [01:08:30] <huamm_> how to make my terminal like this – http://bowoganteng.tk/gambar [01:08:34] <huamm_> coloring [01:08:36] <khc> seems like something with network manager is broken [01:08:38] <almoxarife> khc: pidgin is set up with a server and all that? [01:08:48] <khc> almoxarife: yes, I can ping and all that [01:08:56] <khc> (ex-pidgin developer, I know my pidgin) [01:08:56] <coolstar> does anyone know issues where dbus-daemon uses 58% of m CPU? [01:09:01] <almoxarife> khc: can’t be network manager, if you can web browse [01:09:10] <khc> of course it can be [01:09:24] <khc> programs that integrate with network manager tend to ask it what the network status is [01:09:33] <almoxarife> khc: alrighty then, I’ll let you trouble shoot it [01:09:35] <ksbalaji> Got help from debian channel for my OO problem, though not directly related to them or this channel. Thanks and bye. [01:10:26] <sharpK> does anyone else find that Synergy makes the graphics on 10.10 all messed up? [01:10:29] <sharpK> folder icons don’t show up [01:10:29] <sharpK> and all [01:10:53] <coolstar> @sharpK: I haven’t had any problems on ubuntu 10.10 [01:10:56] <hintss> hey, the computer from yesterday, that locks up on login, the memtest completed 6 passes so far with no errors [01:10:59] <sharpK> hmm [01:11:15] <sharpK> coolstar: do you use ubuntu as a client or host? [01:11:26] <coolstar> I use ubuntu on my thinkpad t60 [01:11:45] <coolstar> sharpK: I’m not sure as I do host a LAMP server [01:11:58] <coolstar> I’m a developer [01:12:03] <sharpK> yeah, I meant with synergy, is it set as the host for synergy or as a client [01:12:25] <coolstar> sharpK: I don’t know what synergy is [01:12:32] <sharpK> oh [01:12:53] <sharpK> oh, you said you had no problem on 10.10 with it [01:13:01] <sharpK> I thought you meant with synergy cause that’s what I said [01:14:53] <jadon> i need some networking help. laptop wifi running 10.10 [01:15:16] <coolstar> I am having serious performance issues after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.10 [01:15:31] <jadon> unity causeing problems? [01:16:07] <jadon> it took me 2 hours to install a different window manager in unity [01:16:15] <coolstar> i found the cause [01:16:25] <coolstar> I unplugged my ipod touch and it was fixed [01:16:29] <jadon> lol [01:16:37] <jadon> what version? [01:16:41] <coolstar> iOS 5 [01:16:47] <coolstar> Tethered Jailbreak [01:16:50] <jadon> gen i ment [01:16:56] <coolstar> 3rd Gen 32 GB [01:17:03] <jadon> same here [01:17:14] <jadon> just not jailbroken for stability issues [01:17:33] <jadon> does cover flow cause your ipod to crash? [01:17:43] <coolstar> jadon: no [01:18:21] <jadon> coolstar really cause it crashes me and my friends ipods [01:18:45] <areichman> hello. I’m having some problems with my DVD drive. lshw finds it but no discs I insert are recognized. Has anybody seen this before? [01:18:47] <coolstar> jadon: try checking your album artwork, and try closing apps in the multitask tray [01:19:04] <jadon> coolstar: what would album artwork have to do with it? [01:19:19] <coolstar> jadon: album artwork is shown in coverflow` [01:19:46] <jadon> areichman: ive been haveing a bitch of a time getting DVDs to play [01:20:06] <areichman> jadon: that’s actually not my problem. I’ve been playing DVD’s for a couple of years [01:20:11] <areichman> discs aren’t being recognized at all now [01:20:20] <areichman> whether they’re DVD’s, audio CD’s… anything [01:20:28] <areichman> even k3b shows ‘no medium present’ [01:20:55] <jadon> areichman: oh well thats bad try a live disk? possibly a bad drive? [01:21:10] <jadon> coolstar: am i whispering right? [01:21:19] <areichman> jadon: maybe. But I get power to it and it’s listed in lshw [01:21:25] <areichman> so the drive can’t be totally bad [01:21:55] <jadon> well i had a hard drive that would show in bios but nowhere else (is this relavent? [01:22:12] <areichman> I assumed a bad drive wouldn’t show up at all. Is that not true? [01:22:25] <jadon> i think so [01:22:49] <jadon> the F/W of the drive will make it show up but possibly the read head is bad? [01:23:02] <jadon> say im no exspert this is pure speculation [01:23:25] jadon bows to Pici [01:23:26] <areichman> interesting. Is there any way to check this? [01:23:59] <jadon> say like i said boot a live disk and if it boots [01:24:30] <jadon> say then something in your OS install broke [01:24:58] <jadon> the reason im saying say as a prefix is due to being in a gameserver console to long [01:25:28] <jadon> coolstar: how would the album artwork cause my ipod to crash [01:25:46] <phix> hey what is the command again which tells dpkg to use my custom permissions and owership for a files / directories that are owned to a package? [01:26:03] <phix> dpkg-statoverride? [01:26:18] <jadon> are we talking via CLI? [01:26:50] <jadon> as in a terminal? [01:27:14] <phix> nm it was dpkg-statoverride 
[01:27:59] <jadon> so can anyone help with networking? [01:28:21] <killown> How get two unity launcher for two displays? [01:28:49] <jadon> i abhor unity [01:29:05] <phix> killown: unity is extremely unconfigurable, use gnome fallback imo [01:29:20] <phix> although the new gnome vers is also unconfigurable I find : need to fix that [01:29:29] <poyntz> hi all [01:29:45] <phix> hi poyntz! [01:29:48] <poyntz> is there any reason why skype isn’t in the default repository for oneiric? [01:29:53] <poyntz> how are things phix ? [01:30:08] <phix> poyntz: because skype is a non-free proprietary software [01:30:19] <phix> poyntz: non-free in the ubuntu sense of the word [01:30:23] <jadon> phix what are you running? [01:30:35] <phix> jadon: gnome fallback [01:30:36] <poyntz> phix: it’s free unless you call people [01:30:44] <poyntz> – on their phones [01:30:50] <phix> poyntz: no the software doesn’t meet Ubuntu’s criteria for free [01:30:56] <poyntz> ahh [01:30:59] <llutz_> poyntz: it free of cost, but not free software [01:31:08] <phix> poyntz: skype probably wants to charge people for bundeling it in their OS or some BS [01:31:09] <poyntz> ohh [01:31:13] <poyntz> you mean open source? [01:31:17] <jadon> ya [01:31:22] <phix> poyntz: just get the deb package from their site and install it manually using dpkg [01:31:33] <poyntz> will do [01:31:37] <jadon> well skype is now owned by M$ [01:31:42] <phix> poyntz: or better yet don’t use skype, use gtalk or setup a asterisk server and use empathy which comes with ubuntu [01:31:48] <poyntz> oneric looks great whoever helped develop it [01:31:51] <phix> jadon: oh I didnt know that [01:32:07] <poyntz> phix: is gtalk a gnome app? [01:32:09] <phix> oneiric annoys me in some areas, one being unity [01:32:13] <phix> poyntz: google talk [01:32:23] <phix> it is a chat and voice protocol [01:32:24] <poyntz> how’s the video on that? [01:32:32] <jadon> ya funny story right after M$ bought skype it almost broke completely
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