[12:05:30] <xbskid> GirlyGirl: CPU usage depends on what’s running. Memory usage is moot in Vista/7 since NT6 introduced a new resource management scheme, although you can disable app caching. [12:05:42] <xbskid> Not sure what service the app cache uses. [12:05:44] <SP1> let me do that and ill brb xbskid to let you know whats up [12:05:54] <SP1> brb [12:06:24] <bampersand> Hey guys, i’m trying to install windows 7 but i seem to be having a problem, i’ve got a disc that can install any varient of the os (home basic, premium etc), expanding files is complete in a ma<GirlyGirl> xbskid: I mean at idle on a 1.6 GHZ CPU for example windows 7 uses 40% and XP 2%. Not surprising since XP asks for 233Mhz and 7 1Ghz [12:07:21] <SP1> ok back xbskid [12:07:27] <GirlyGirl> Windows XP rarely reaches 100% CPU when doing things and 7 keeps reaching 100% doing the same tasks [12:07:29] <SP1> checking to see if icon did indeed change [12:07:51] <SP1> nope its still showing association with notepad [12:08:00] <xbskid> GirlyGirl: Well, W7 is newer, and is meant for newer hardware, although you could probably try limiting the number of things running in the background. [12:08:03] <SP1> in lmhosts properties of the file [12:08:57] <GirlyGirl> xbskid: I am aware but Windows 7 is slow for development involving big databases compared to XP [12:09:14] <GirlyGirl> on rather new hardware [12:09:49] <SP1> xbskid one thought the hosts file has a blank icon so im wondering what program or whatever its associated with [12:10:06] <SP1> so maybe i can set the .sam to be the same [12:10:09] <xbskid> SP1: It wasn’t associated with anything; we established that already. [12:10:28] <xbskid> Or at least I established that. [12:10:38] <SP1> well yeah untill i accidentially associated the .sam to notepad which its still associated with [12:11:00] <oeuvre> heh i;ve done that befor [12:11:03] <xbskid> GirlyGirl: What new hardware only has a 1.6GHz operating speed? [12:11:12] <SP1> i dodnt see the box to associate the file with notepad was checked when i looked into it some time ago [12:11:26] <SP1> oeuvre was that for me? [12:11:37] <GirlyGirl> xbskid: That was one example [12:11:52] <oeuvre> yeah [12:11:57] <SP1> ok [12:12:13] <SP1> oeuvre mind if i pm you? [12:12:43] <oeuvre> yea [12:12:48] <SP1> thanks [12:13:08] <GirlyGirl> xbskid: Intel Atom N270 and Intel® Coreâ„¢ i7-720QM are 1.6Ghz and new [12:13:35] <GirlyGirl> and yes Windows should be capable of running properly on an Intel Atom [12:14:13] <GirlyGirl> Having modern hardware is no excuse for poor performance testing and bloated software [12:15:36] <Ussat> hmm…windows7 seems to perform just fine for me here [12:16:53] <oeuvre> windows 7 is awesome [12:17:17] <GirlyGirl> Ussat: It does perform quite well I wouldn’t disagree on that. But in a scenario where a resource intensive app executes on it, that app runs faster on XP. [12:21:49] <GirlyGirl> Also it has killed multiple batteries for me and people I know especially on DELL systems . There is a ready long thread on technet going on from 2009 to present about that [12:22:44] <GirlyGirl> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprohardware/thread/c6c043e6-eeb1-4e61-870d-896ca2f865d6 [12:32:28] <genoobie> okay here’s a question [12:32:39] <xbskid> That’s a statement! [12:32:54] <genoobie> I bought a laptop that was supposed to have vista, I have two “recovery” disks that are dvds [12:33:13] <genoobie> when I try to boot up with those dvds it doesn’t do anything except boot to my OS [12:33:19] <genoobie> (the one on the HDD) [12:33:43] <xbskid> genoobie: So what’s the question? [12:33:49] <genoobie> can I just download vista home premium and install? since I don’t need all the crap that comes with the compaq cq50? [12:34:08] <xbskid> Not unless your OEM offers that for download (Which they normally do not) [12:34:34] <genoobie> hrm…okay, so I have to order “recovery disks” and wait I suspect. [12:34:38] <genoobie> or just reinstall xp [12:34:50] <xbskid> Don’t go with XP. It’s over a decade old. [12:35:14] <genoobie> it was hell finding drivers… [12:35:32] <xbskid> I can’t wait until someone comes out with ARM W8 desktops. [12:35:37] <xbskid> No backwards-compatibility 
[12:36:17] <genoobie> well, if I can’t download the “recovery” disks, then I will probably go to xp [12:36:24] <genoobie> stinks, but I can’t really wait [12:36:46] <genoobie> and I think I’ll make a dual boot with ubuntu or some other linux distro and spring it on the wife… [12:39:06] <genoobie> given the black fridal deals I’m tempted just to buy a new notebook… [12:39:40] <xbskid> If those “deals” are still ongoing, they’re probably the new MSRP [12:40:22] <genoobie> heh, probably right [12:40:41] <genoobie> well the “recovery” disks are not downloadable [12:40:58] <genoobie> btw opera kicks butt on windows [12:41:00] <xbskid> That’s what happened with the PS3 a few years back; Best Buy was advertising this “amazing deal”. Turns out it was the new going price. [12:41:03] <genoobie> g’bye to ie8 [12:43:32] <xbskid> I prefer Firefox. [12:46:16] <genoobie> xbskid, hey, I just remembered my dad has a machine that has vista [12:46:25] <genoobie> I think it is a dell, can I use that disk? [12:46:45] <xbskid> genoobie: If your box is also a Dell, then yes. Otherwise it will fail to activate (Or possibly install) [12:46:53] <genoobie> hrm… [12:46:59] <genoobie> no the box is a hp [12:47:02] <xbskid> And chances are it won’t work the OEM key on the bottom. [12:49:28] <genoobie> xbskid, good chance or some chance…well what have I got to lose [12:49:52] <xbskid> genoobie: In my experience it’s closer to “no chance”, but I haven’t done exhaustive testing 
[12:49:56] <genoobie> did they just package it with different drivers? [12:50:06] <SunliteDawn> I use Windows 98 [12:50:09] <SunliteDawn> Is that good to use now? [12:50:24] <genoobie> linux>>win98 [12:50:29] <xbskid> genoobie: Different, no. Additional, probably (Although the drivers could be on an auxiliary disc). [12:50:41] <genoobie> so just keyed differently? [12:50:52] <xbskid> genoobie: In my experience, yes. [12:51:09] <genoobie> hrm, probably a way to strip that info out, I’m just wondering if that is worth it [12:51:12] <xbskid> But like I said, it’s entirely possible that the install will work and that the activation screen -might- take your key. [12:51:21] <genoobie> okay, I’m going to try [12:51:45] <genoobie> like I said, what have I got to lose, I can always go back to the pain in the rear xpsp3 isntall [12:51:48] <xbskid> If it’s based on a normal install disc, it should let you install Vista without a key (Unless it’s got an automated setup script), in which case activation will definitely fail. [12:51:52] <xbskid> Indeed. [12:52:02] <xbskid> Make sure you have the XP drivers backed up before you start [12:52:13] <genoobie> heh…I’ve got 20 computers to downlaod [12:54:17] <SunliteDawn> Is Windows Vista good? [12:54:26] <xbskid> SunliteDawn: Better than XP. [12:54:32] <SunliteDawn> Why is that? [12:54:37] <SunliteDawn> people complain about crashes? [12:54:39] <SunliteDawn> and freezes [12:55:04] <Ussat> people complain about a lot of things, I had no issues with Vista at all [12:55:20] <Ussat> and I ran Vista 64bit [12:57:42] <genoobie> i will try to run vista 32bit [12:58:00] <SunliteDawn> Vista sucks [12:58:03] <SunliteDawn> on a virutal machine [12:58:14] <xbskid> Of course it sucks in a VM. 
[12:58:16] <xbskid> It’s a VM [12:58:24] <genoobie> if i don’t like it i am thinking about linux and xp dual boot [12:58:29] <Ussat> never ran it on a VM, but I dont see why it would suck if your guest is powerfull enough [12:58:40] <xbskid> Ussat: You mean host, right? [12:58:51] <Ussat> rught, my bad host [13:04:45] <johnll> hola [13:29:17] <donavan01> anyone ever used windows sever 2003 for routing from a wireless connection to a wired connection? [13:34:09] <D[4]ni> uhm. i’m trying to install the 6to4 adapter on my win7 home premium 64bit, but after installing the driver, it won’t show up on the device manager [13:42:27] <TheMac> My computer is doing this really weird thing. When I boot up, it says “Welcome” for a moment [13:42:34] <TheMac> then the screen goes black and does not come back [13:42:54] <TheMac> I can move the mouse around, but the screen is still black and the desktop does not come up [13:43:11] <TheMac> oh wait, there it goes… [13:55:15] <shawn186|i7> Hello [13:55:46] <shawn186|i7> For a western digital My Book Essentials, is it required to do a quick format? [13:56:04] <S_SubZero> does the documentation say it is? [13:59:00] <shawn186|i7> i guess not [13:59:36] <S_SubZero> I assume the drive comes formatted, likely for whatever OS the product favors. [14:00:11] <shawn186|i7> it comes with a whole lot of software [14:00:24] <shawn186|i7> and user manuals in every known language lol [14:01:19] <shawn186|i7> 2 programs WD SmartWare, and WD Quick Formatter [14:01:33] <xbskid> shawn186|i7: I don’t think it has one in Swahili [14:01:39] <Ussat> there is no need to format it unless ya want to [14:02:06] <shawn186|i7> oh [14:02:10] <shawn186|i7> is it already in ntfs? [14:02:19] <xbskid> You tell us. [14:02:41] <shawn186|i7> i can move files on it [14:03:32] <shawn186|i7> 37 GBs in pictures D: [14:04:27] <xbskid> shawn186|i7: Just make sure you keep copies of those elsewhere, too [14:09:11] <usagiakumu> wow Windows 8 with multiple displays is awesome [14:09:26] <xbskid> I haven’t tried it on my main desktop yet. [14:09:29] <usagiakumu> you can have a screen dedicated to your tiles [14:09:32] <xbskid> What with the mouse integration being crap. [14:09:55] <usagiakumu> right but it makes it awesome to set up a secondary touch screen specifically for the metro ui junk [14:10:08] <xbskid> Oh, of course. [14:10:12] <usagiakumu> and the other for your main desktop [14:10:27] <xbskid> And for the times that you want to use the traditional desktop, the taskbar actually spans both displays. [14:10:45] <usagiakumu> what I like is when I log into windows live from another computer it makes the wallpaper and everything from my other install the same [14:10:55] <usagiakumu> yeah its sexy [14:11:17] <xbskid> I wish I could find some decent panoramic Lancia Stratos wallpapers. [14:11:31] <Christopher> make a collage [14:11:33] <xbskid> Not that I ever see my desktop. [14:11:37] <xbskid> Collages are crap. [14:11:46] <Christopher> yeah sadly [14:12:36] <Christopher> I have an old CRT touch display I decided to plug in just to see if it worked and everything just popped up and made it my metro screen whilst allowing me my 72″ 16:9 tv as my main display [14:32:57] <EricRaymond> synergy [14:40:45] <_Synergy_> =) [14:52:52] <Zino> Hey guys I badle [14:53:00] <Zino> I badly need help with a issue that just came up [14:53:07] <Zino> Its about my newly Bought SSD [14:53:34] <Zino> I have tried everything to get it to show in Win7 64-bit Ultimate, nothing worked so far… [14:55:26] <Zino> I connected via SATA III (it says 6Gb/s is supported on disk) and SATA II, I have also tried two different types of Power supply cables, the SSD gets visible with all these methods on “Unithandler?” I<Zino> can any1 plz help? [14:56:23] <_Synergy_> have you checked disk manager and device manager? [14:57:01] <Zino> device manager was the thing I called unithandler, since I got swedish windows and wasnt sure on the correct translation [14:57:06] <Zino> what is diskmanager? [14:57:21] <_Synergy_> right click ‘my computer’
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